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Posted by on Mar 5, 2017 in Business & Education, Featured, Interviews, Social | 0 comments

Ken Endelman – The man behind Balanced Body

Ken Endelman – The man behind Balanced Body

Working with Pilates as I do, I get to interview some of the most inspirational people involved with Pilates over the years. It makes my job so much more rewarding and helps to inspire and inform our ever increasing audience of Pilates enthusiasts.
During Pilates on Tour 2016 in London, I got to interview Ken Endelman, the man behind the innovative creation of Pilates equipment. It was a golden opportunity to find out more about the man, how he started out, his inspiration and plans for the future.
Before we start, a little background about the man himself for those who are new to Pilates. Ken started out as a designer of custom made furniture back in the 70s along the famous Melrose Avenue in Hollywood. A future customer would change Ken’s path when she came in asking for modifications on an existing piece of equipment, known as the “Reformer.” With no background in or knowledge of Pilates, he studied the original designs from Joseph Pilates, consulted with other knowledgeable instructors and original students of Pilates, and came up with something special. From there would begin a whole new adventure for Ken and Pilates enthusiasts. Today Ken is the CEO of Balanced Body, providing equipment, exercise, instruction and much, much more worldwide.
My first question to Ken was about his early days and that first special client: Looking back now he can remember stalling and putting her off, thinking it was something he shouldn’t really get involved in, that it would be a phase, a passing fancy that wouldn’t really result in anything. However, the lady was persistent, and following some random dates in the diary as to when he would start, the lady in question eventually cornered and confronted him about when he was going to start. So from there, he worked on modifying and refining the Reformer.  Ken continued his work on Pilates equipment and creating pieces that helped make Pilates a pleasurable, safer and more unique experience for the user.  Input from others helped him to formulate his ideas including an antiques dealer from Majorca, Pilates instructors from all over the States, the use of unusual bits and pieces such as motorcycle parts and various shaped lamps, everything was explored and everything was changed, modified and fine-tuned, until it was right, until it was perfect.


Lawsuits and trademarks made Ken’s early career difficult. Pilates really started taking off in the 1990s, with the enthusiastic endorsement of celebrities and movie stars. However, back in those early days, it was impossible to use the word ”Pilates”, or even call yourself a ”Pilates” instructor without the risk of being sued.  The ‘P’ word was a dirty word that everyone was afraid to mention, and it made it difficult for Ken to use it for his new found business in Pilates equipment.  Ken took the lead in the Pilates trademark dispute, and thankfully, in 2000 the federal court in Manhattan, along with the US Patent & Trademark Office, decided that the word Pilates was not trademarked and could be used to describe exercise, equipment or studios without risk of legal action, and that had a tremendous impact on Ken Endelman’s career.  The result was that the name Pilates was freely available to everyone.

Although Pilates became popular in the 90s, it started much earlier, Ken was happy to fill me in on its earlier history.  Joseph Pilates was born back in the 1920s and become popular for a brief period in the 60s before fading away in late ’67.  In the 1990s, it gained more momentum with Pilates schools coming up in the mid-90s, and of course, with the help of movie stars and celebrities, it gained worldwide popularity.


For Ken his work is about the process of perfecting, improving, and brainstorming with other people. Collaboration is the key and he’s worked hard with many people over the years to fine tune his existing equipment and to come up with new ideas.  At this same time, other aspects of Balanced Body business are developing, like for example, education.  Numbers for the Pilates on Tour Conferences, and workshops are increasing and it takes tremendous dedication and focus he to keep all these balls in the air. You take an empty room, he points out, a room with nothing but carpets and walls, and turn it into this dynamic conference centre with equipment, people, and all the dynamics that goes with that, and then at the end of it you have an empty room again.
Looking to the future, Ken mentions that in the US, 85% of Pilates users are female, and this is something he wants to change (considering the founder was a man).  It’s good to have more men on-board, and he’s looking to see what he can do to make this happen.  Men like to work hard, get sweaty and beat it up slightly, although he’s quick to point out that perhaps he’s generalising a little.  As most of the exercises men do, usually, involve standing positions, and Pilates involves lying down and sitting, he’s looking to create something where there’s more focus on practicing in a standing position. What kind of situations can we present people with? What will make it more appetising for them? And how can we market Pilates in a way that’s appealing to people who aren’t doing it now?
In his 40th year in business, Ken is as enthusiastic about Pilates now as he ever was. The beauty of Pilates with its “cool set of principles” that make a lot of sense, but, his mind is still working on improvements and attracting a wider audience.  He’s frustrated by the fact that Pilates is only a small part of the fitness world and that people still don’t really understand it and would like to find a way to reach that part of the population and steer them towards Pilates through varied approaches.  For example, the Bodhi SuSpension System,  a practical and challenging piece of equipment for the Pilates studio owner, it needs somewhere to hang, preferably a strong wall, a wall that’s safe. The Bodhi provides exercises that involve working against gravity. Yes, there are other kinds of suspension like TRX but he feels that Pilates can feature its own unique form of suspension, and he’s keen for people to try it out.


Does Ken know more about Pilates now and does he practice it himself?  Yes, for a man who started out as a self-described ‘closet engineer,’ he does enjoy Pilates, even though he started out not having a clue as to what it was. He understood the basics enough to create the machines he came up with, and what their end goal should be, but little more. However, for more than a decade he’s been consistently practicing Pilates back home in Sacramento. He also practices it whenever he can when travelling.
Balanced Body is very much a family affair with everyone involved including his wife and his sons. His daughter-in-law has become a Pilates Instructor and is also involved in the business, Pilates is clearly had its influence on the entire family.
Apart from Pilates, how does Ken relax when he’s not working? He enjoys bike riding and goes for ‘epic’ rides.  In 2015 he prepared for a fantastic ride at Lake Tahoe in aid of Leukaemia. His preparations involved daily 100-mile bike rides!
I ask him if he has anything to tell us he’s not told anyone else before, a secret he’d like to share with us today, he thinks for a moment and then suggests philanthropy. He’d like to be a philanthropist, to be able to give stuff away to those most in need. He buys the $5 lottery ticket and thinks about what he’d do with the money should he win a considerable sum. We talk about small kindnesses and the importance of giving. He mentions the book “Who Stole My Cheese?” and we talk about simply being nice, of making someone’s day, just because you can.
His favourite Pilates moves are standing ones mostly, (no surprises there) and also standing moves using the Corealign. He also loves the Elephant.
I ask finally, what’s his birth sign? Pisces. And that’s interesting I tell him because that’s the typical ”giver” – the philanthropist who’s tries and does everything until they have a large body of knowledge. Then they think about what and how can they give to others.
It’s a perfect way to end the interview.

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Posted by on May 6, 2015 in Business & Education, Featured, Pilates, Reviews, Social | 0 comments

Pilates on Tour 2015

Pilates on Tour 2015

Pilatestree had the pleasure of being invited to Balanced Body, Pilates on Tour in London again this year and as usual on offer were great workshops hosted by some fabulous teachers. You can’t be everywhere but I managed to see a few favourites but sorry not to have been able to get to every workshop on offer.

Suzanne Scott presented a workshop on ‘Pilates for  High Performance’. I’ve been a fan of Suzanne ever since I began my training where she often delivered lectures to us, or more scarily was an examiner in our final exams! Since then, I’ve attended several of her workshops but this was the best. She talked about, and showed us the roles strength, flexibility, power and endurance play for the athlete, and how we as Pilates teachers can facilitate this. The workshop was clearly and concisely presented with the perfect amount of demonstration and explanation and even though aimed at high performing athletes, I was still able to take parts of this and apply them to my classes this week. I also managed to get an interview with Suzanne, so watch this space!

Elizabeth Larkham presented a workshop on ‘Balancing the slings in the Pilates studio’ … Fabulously inventive as ever, Elizabeth delivered some gorgeous exercises on the reformer, Cadillac and chair and she did some amazing work for the neck using the stability sling. Following the principles of fascia training and with the latest research, she presented a balanced programme of exercises that were applicable to combat the effects of modern living i,e phones, computers etc.

This year, for the first time, I also managed to do a workshop with Chrissy Romani -Ruby and who I’ve just added to my favourites list. Her back background is physiotherapy and her workshop was, ‘The Gluteals and the link to lower back pain’. Back pain is so prevalent in our ever more sedentary society that this was a really useful look at the latest research and how we can use these finds in the Pilates environment. Needless to say, we all knew where our Gluteals were by the end of the workshop. I very much look forward to working with Chrissy again and picked up some  fabulous functional exercises both on the mat and the reformer to add to the repertoire. I used some of these exercises today – not sure my clients will thank me tomorrow but they will in the long term!

Thank you to Ken Endelman, Nora and Al Harrison, Dave Littman and all of the Pilates on Tour team for another great tour and being such good hosts. See you next year!

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Posted by on Mar 5, 2015 in Featured, Interviews, Pilates, Social, Workshops and Further Education | 0 comments

Pilates on Tour – The Beginning

Pilates on Tour – The Beginning

with Nora St. John and Al Harrison of Balanced Body

 

Interviewers: Sharon Thompson (ST), Monica Zarebska (MZ)

Respondents: Nora St. John (NSJ), Al Harrison (AH)

While enjoying yet another fabulous year at Pilates on Tour, back in April 2014, we caught up with Nora and Al to find out more how Pilates on Tour came to be.

ST: We would love to know how, and why, you started this great event?

NSJ: Pilates on Tour came out off a conference I was already doing with a colleague from Body Mind Spirit in 2002. At the time that was the really big Pilates conference in the U.S.  One day I had this idea of wanting to bring all my favourite teachers together.  So no big venue, no big numbers – just teachers. I mentioned this idea to this gal, who has a conference production background and told her this at lunch on Saturday and she came on Sunday and said I have the Santa Clara Convention Center booked for a year from now!

NSJ: She told me – It’s ten rooms, 750 people, and I was like…really?…okay…So then I was off and running with programming Pilates conferences and because they really, hadn’t happened before I just called up all my friends and said: Okay so you teach Mat and you teach this and you teach that and would you like to teach? It was also thanks to Al, my husband here, he put together a database to manage registration.

Al put together this database and figured out how to register 750 people for different classes from all over the world. And at that point I’d known Kenny (Endleman) from Balanced Body since I began teaching Pilates in 1989 in San Francisco, so I called him and said “I have an idea to do this big conference and can you bring a whole load of Pilates equipment for us”? …and he was foolish enough to say yes! Neither of us had done anything like this before.

We agreed to have Balanced Body as the exclusive equipment supplier, it made a lot of sense and they were willing to do it. They were also close as San Francisco and Sacramento are only two hours apart. We did this for 3 years and then for a variety of reason we didn’t continue with that project. Al and I then came up with a business plan for Pilates on Tour and take a conference all over the country (and world).

NSJ: In fact I called up Kenny and said I just want to let you know I’m done with Body Mind and Spirit, I’m not going to do that anymore and he said, which is very unlike Kenny ‘What’s next?’ And I said well I have this other idea…..

Then we started Pilates on Tour in 2004. The first event was San Francisco in July and then we did New York and Los Angeles that same year. We did eight the next year…

MZ: So you are the mother and father of Pilates on Tour? 🙂

NSJ: We are. Yes, it’s fantastic actually. Then I think the first international event we did was…Rome? Or was it Hong Kong? So yes, although we’re a US company we sell in different countries also because, of course, Pilates is big everywhere. I’m not going to say we sell a lot in those countries but we sell something in a lot of countries…

Al Harrison: We have had people asking us for years to bring the event to ‘them’. Everywhere in the world. But sometimes it’s hard to bring it to them, you can see all the equipment we have in use here at this event ( London 2014) and that would have to be shipped somewhere. We also have to store it and get it in and out of venues. So we need to go to places where it’s possible to do that. So for that first event we had a really great distributer in Rome who said they could support us. And we need that support because ofthe language barrier. Customer service, for example, is really important and we can’t do that without translation.

MZ: How do you find the dynamics of the event from one place to another – is it different doing it in the States to doing it in Europe – do you have to adjust it a little bit?

NSJ: You know it’s oddly not that different. I’ve travelled all over with Pilates and teachers are kind of the same everywhere. They are always curious, interested in the body, always interested in new stuff. I mean they always love Pilates on Tour because we bring equipment, so it’s not just a Mat conference which many of them now are. So they really get to play and they really get to be on a Reformer, Cadillac and Chair. Of course we certainly notice little differences so, for example, in Asia generally, they learn in a different way in which they’re interested in being part of things, you find very dedicated students who learn absolutely everything you say and commit it to memory. Very studious. It’s a very different learning style.

AH: The ratio of male to female students in Asia is also higher than in other places. There are always a lot more men doing Pilates than compared to somewhere like the UK. We also notice that in other countries, for instance, we go to Turkey in Istanbul there are also a lot of men, they make up something like 30% of our event.

ST: That surprises me.

AH: Well Pilates is considered a guy thing there. That’s an example of some of the kinds of changes we notice. The other thing that is interesting is, especially when we come somewhere for the first time, there is a certain energy about the event. Then we come the second time and the energy is very different, the first time everyone is trying to figure out who’s who and what’s where, then they show up the second time and they’re already best friends. This means that the atmosphere kind of softens up each time we visit a place again.

Nora explains that the Tour gives a teacher an opportunity to consider what they love, whether it be one to one training, group training, they get the opportunity to explore an element that they may not have thought about before. She says it can take some years of teaching to find what you truly love..

MZ: If someone trains with you do they then need to follow the ‘franchise mothership’?

NSJ: No. We have our particular approach because we’re Balanced Body, but all of our students can take contuing education anywhere they want. They could take it with STOTT, Body Control, Michael King… with Pro Star with an osteopath college or whatever.

MZ: That’s an interesting approach. Often, if you take up teacher training with certain schools you have to follow that particular format but you allow for that bit of freedom and independence of thinking …

NSJ: I think that’s important and that’s how I trained.

MZ: If someone wants to become a teacher trainer for Balanced Body – how does that work?

NSJ:  Pilates is our foundation basic programme, we also have CoreAlign which is a three module programme, MOTR which is a two day programme and Bohdi suspension system and Barre which are also two day programmes. Then there is Anatomy in Three Dimensions – so we have all those that we teach. To get to a Faculty position, people generally come to us but sometimes we approach them. Myself, or one of my closest colleagues and master instructors, will then teach them how to teach it to students. So they do repertoire, they do teaching practice, we do a lot of a lot of teaching drills, they do presentations which we then critique them on. The focus is always teaching the craft of Pilates but also teaching the principles behind it. I always look for people who are not just regular teachers but educators.

Nora tells us a bit about her history and that she started at St Frances Hospital in 1988 as a client and then she started teaching.  It was very much a medical environment and Pilates was very new on the West Coast and she taught to the body in front of her.

NSJ  I started with Romana, studied with Carola , and with Eve Gentry quite a bit, Alan Herdman, and a man named Jean Claude West who is a Californian – We started Pilates the traditional way with all those elders and other people but we also basically did what we needed to do in the studio. I personally learned that Pilates is a very modifiable system which is the principles of good movement. So, for example, if I was going to get somebody’s core to activate but they couldn’t flex their spine, or lift their head, or flex their knees – how was I going to do that? It was a learning process with no manuals. You would go to the seminars and you would make crazy drawings and you hope remembered everything.That’s pretty much how it was at that time. I trained by just working with a million clients for a million years and trying to make Pilates work for them and make their move pattern better within a Pilates environment. It wasn’t learning in a particularly dogmatic fashion and that wasn’t and isn’t, my style.

ST: Tell us a little bit more about Al and Nora… We’ve  heard all about the Pilates and now we want to hear about you, a skeleton in the cupboard perhaps?

AH: I think I picked the wrong table to lunch on!

NSJ: Well here we go… I’m cranky when I’m not in public, most people thing I’m the calmest person in the world because they only see me in public. So this is like my secret, my public face is one way and those I work with closely and who know me see another side.

ST: I think we’re all a bit like that aren’t we?

AH: She’s not actually…she’s always good. (all laugh). I love to bicycle and Ken Endelaman I do a big charity ride each year for the Lymphoma and Leukemia Foundation.

MZ: Do have a hobby or different activity that you do together?

NSJ: We cook. I love to cook and also I love being outside actually. More, I think, than most Pilates instructors. It seems many would prefer the five star hotel to the camping experience and I’m kind of a camper. I love being outside. Al and I, we walked the El Camino de Santiago 500 miles across the north of Spain for our 50th Birthdays.

ST: How long did that take?

NSJ: About 35 days…it’s like 12 – 18 miles a day.

AH: 800 km, 500 miles…

MZ: That’s amazing!

ST: So what’s the next thing? Is there something else in the pipeline?

AH: There’s no magical products. If you look at our strategy, we’ve got Pilates and then we’ve added things like CoreAlign we’ve added things like MOTR and Bodhi. But what’s really cool is that we’re adding them all in with a Pilates sensibility so it’s not like we just need a rope system. For example there’s things you can do on a suspension system that you can’t do on a Pilates machine and if you approach the suspension system with a Pilates sensibility you’re doing the same work your just using a different tool and it’s not like you now need to think just suspension, you’re not thinking Suspension, your just thinking about the principles. So we’ve been adding things in that support and grow Pilates and over time we’ll add more things. There isn’t a huge next step at this point.

NSJ: We’re more interested in absorbing what we have, and where we are, at this moment to be quite honest with you.

ST: We can see that the events are definitely getting bigger and bigger with more people each year which is great! Will you definitely be coming back to the UK next year?

AH: Yeah!

ST: Excellent! We look forward to seeing you.

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Posted by on Jul 2, 2014 in Featured, Interviews, Pilates | 0 comments

Lolita’s Legacy

Lolita’s Legacy

new-lolitaLolita San Miguel at Pilates on Tour, London, April 12014

The number of people who remember Joe Pilates is, naturally, diminishing.  Whenever a Pilates “elder” (one of Joes’s original students) is present, the elephant in the room must surely be the unspoken question: “How long will we still have people able to do this?”.  Fortunately, at Balanced Body Pilates on Tour this year, we had Ken Endelman to break the ice for us by asking exactly that as he warmly introduced Lolita San Miguel for a series of workshops in London.  She smiled.

Lolita shows no obvious signs of slowing down.  A dynamo of energy, at one of the workshops I attended she obviously felt that the examples of the Teaser exercise she was observing from the group were below par.  “No, no, no – like this!” she said, as she demonstrated an impeccable full version (complete with lowering and lifting the legs) to a room filled with Pilates teachers, most of whom were less than half her age.

Nobody could ever accuse Lolita San Miguel of doing things by half. While working as a dancer, an injury led her to Pilates and, eventually, to training as a teacher with Carola Trier.  At her friend and colleague Kathy Grant’s suggestion, the two of them went to meet Joe Pilates to ask him to certify them.  Laughing as she tells the story, Lolita recalls that she didn’t even know Joe Pilates was alive at that time, let alone living and working two blocks from Carola’s studio where she had been working.  She spent six months working with Joe – four hours a day, five days a week.  “Joe and Clara worked hard.  They were very humble people”, Lolita remembers.  Joe’s studio was a place to work – rather dirty, in fact, and in complete contrast to the spotless efficiency that she had become used to at Carola Trier’s studio.  Lolita used to arrive at the studio at 2pm, she says, because she realised that, by then, Joe had “finished his lunch, had his schnapps and a nap, and was in a much better mood”.  Although Joe was still generally healthy when she knew him, Lolita remembers he had arthritis and “a terrible cough – he smoked 17 cigars a day!”  Interestingly, Lolita says Clara was the better teacher – much more patient than Joe.  “Joe had good days and bad”.  One day, when he was in a low mood he said “Time is running out for me and I haven’t accomplished what I wanted”.

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Lolita seems determined not to let that happen to her.  She recounts the story of how, on being asked by a teacher in Dusseldorf if she would visit and teach there, she agreed only after discovering that it was close to Joe’s birthplace of Monchengladbach .  After a huge amount of effort, battling local bureaucracy and lack of interest (no one in his home town at the time knew who Joe was), Lolita commemorated Joe’s birthplace with a plaque and organised an international Pilates conference to celebrate.

Lolita has done so much.  Quite apart from her history and achievements in Pilates, she founded and directed (for 27 years) Puerto Rico’s leading ballet company and school.  However, as she recounted her memories of the early days, it struck me that her gift to the future of Pilates is at least as powerful as her illustrious past.  Looking to the future, Lolita launched her successful Pilates Master Mentor Program, through which more that 100 second-generation teachers from all over the world have graduated.  Never one to rest on her laurels, her next step was to start a Teacher Training Program which she called “Lolita’s Legacy.”  And what a wonderful legacy she is giving us.

At Pilates on Tour in London, I was fortunately enough to attend workshops that Lolita gave on the matwork and Cadillac Repertoire.  The repertoire was a mixture of classic “Joe originals”, mixed with other exercises including Carola Trier’s, Kathy Grant’s and Lolita’s own variations.  Some exercises had similarities to ballet exercises and floorbarre work.  It was strong work, delivered with an unfussy but detailed manner.  Hers is not an elitist approach.  “I have never begun a mat class with The Hundred”, she said.  In fact, we were give a full 20+ exercises of warming up before arriving at The Hundred.  Obviously in Lolita’s view, Pilates is for everybody.  We spent some time discussing the ways in which exercises could be modified to suit a variety of clients.  In the introduction to her mat class she says it is “for all of those who enjoy movement as essential to life in every stage of our lives”.   Lolita certainly appears determined to ensure that the spirit of Pilates will never diminish.  And she never stops: her next goal is to commemorate Joe’s original studio in New York.  After 56 years of practice, Lolita still does Pilates every day.  “Whatever the problem, Pilates fixes it”, she smiles.

Images from http://lolitapilates.com and http://www.pilatesanytime.com

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Posted by on May 8, 2014 in Pilates, Reviews, Social, Workshops | 0 comments

Balanced Body Pilates on Tour 2014

Balanced Body Pilates on Tour 2014

balanced-body-logo-100904For the third year in the row PilatesTree attended Balanced Body Pilates on Tour, London.  This was the 67th PoT and 4th in the UK.  PoT is a great opportunity for teachers from many different countries and different schools to interact, mingle, play and work together and to expand our knowledge. Teachers from more than 37 different countries attended this year.  PoT is here for 5 days, the first two days are dedicated to teacher training in Core Align, Balanced Body Barre, MOTR and Pilates for a healthy back.  Friday, Saturday and Sunday are a variety of workshops presented by very well respected teachers from all over the world.

This years presenters included:

Valentin, MS; Pilates Body By ValentIn

Shari Berkowitz; The Vertical Workshop

Madeline Black; Passing the Torch Mentor; Studio M Pilates

Blossom Leilani Crawford; Owner, Bridge Pilates

Tom McCook; Passing the Torch Mentor; Center of Balance,

Portia Page; Balanced Body faculty

Joy Puleo; Body Wise StudIo

Erika Quest; Studio Q Pilates Conditioning

Chrissy Romani-Ruby PT; PHI Pilates

Lolita San Miguel, Passing the Torch Mentor; Pilates y Mas

Suzanne Scott; The Scott Studio

Anna Maria Vitali; Balanced Body faculty

Each day began with a morning class at 7.30am taught by one of the presenters or another specially invited teacher, this was followed by a delicious breakfast and chat.  There are two 3 hour sessions of workshops 9am – 12 noon and 2pm – 5 pm.  In between there was a good break for a lovely lunch, a spot of shopping, mini workshops and a quick talk and lottery draw from Nora St Jones, co-creator of PoT.

The mini workshops are a chance to try out pieces of equipment such as the MOTR and Core Align among others.

Friday evening, PoT hosted a free reception with drinks and nibbles. This is an opportunity to meet new friends, catch up with old friends and meet the creators & crew of Pilates on Tour including Nora St Jones, Al Harrison, Ken Endelman, Dave Littman (see interview last year).

PoT bring all the equipment with them including, Reformers, Cadillacs, Wunda chairs, Pilates arcs, Sitting Boxes, Orbits, Core Aligns, accessories, fascia release balls, Franklin balls, springs, foot correctors, pads, foam rollers. It takes an awful lot of organising but they have it down to a fine art.   Teachers also have the opportunity to buy some of the large equipment which is a special show price.

What do you get for you money other than the workshops? Morning workout, US style, super breakfast and lunch, endless coffees, teas, soft drinks and cakes, a thick BB mat, pen and a welcome pack, Ken’s history talk on Saturday after the workshops. You can gather many of your yearly requirement of CPD points too, all in one 5 day period.

Thank you to all the presenters and crew members who gave us their time (too many to mention individually) we hope to catch up with those we didn’t manage to talk to next year.

Thank you to Ken and Dave for facilitating our visit this and we look forward to the 5th Pilates on Tour in London, April 2015!

 

Coming up soon:-

Workshop with Lolita San Miguel

Interview with Shari Berkowitz

Interview with Nora and Al

Interview with Suzanne Scott (the only UK presenter)

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